Some comments on comments

One of my new year's resolutions has to spend more time trolling forums and blogs. To interact more, learn some new tricks and (ahem) build some comment and signature links.

Many blogs use nofollow to prevent spam, but we all know this doesn't work. This has never stopped me from commenting on blogs, I still enjoy the random bits of traffic you get from posting an intelligent comment on a good article.

Anyway, on my travels today, I found some interesting things about how nofollow is used.

ReviewMe

Firstly, V7N mentioning that people have been nofollowing ReviewMe reviews. If I was paying someone $40 - $250 for a product review, you can be pretty sure I'll be expecting link juice for that investment. ReviewMe allows you to post a negative review, which is fine. But only an asshole would accept payment for a review and then nofollow the link. That's just plain dirty.
Unfortunately, it seems some people think this is a good idea.

Blog comments

Most blogs now use nofollow on the links to allegedly prevent spam. My experience is that nofollow does nothing to prevent spam, but CAPTCHAs are still surprisingly effective. Because I'm a nice guy, my CAPTCHAs are only 3 characters and aren't case sensitive. Side Note - if your CAPTCHA is case sensitive, this is really really annoying!
Once spammers start brute forcing my CAPTCHAs, I'll make them longer or more complex, but it seems to work fine for now.

So assuming we can prevent automated spam, the next spam is mindless comments offering no substantial contribution. A human visitor posts "Great article well done" and expects a link for it. I call this spam too.

Login to post a comment

Plenty of blogs require registration and login before you can post a comment. This is fine for forums, but it seems like a lot of work to do just to post a comment. I won't usually bother setting up an account just to post a comment - hell, I've sometimes dropped a shopping cart and gone elsewhere because I can't be bothered registering.

Jim Boykin has the right attitude

I think this post pretty well echoes my thoughts.

Basically, a useful comment adds to your unique site content. This is a very good thing. It doesn't seem unreasonable to offer some link juice in exchange for a bit of site content, and the feel-good community it creates.

Jim mentions somewhere that if a comment is good enough to appear on your site, it's good enough to have some link juice. This I tent to agree with, however I don't think I would want to send link juice to a mesothelioma site, even if the comment was useful.

Admin approval

A workable answer lies in admin approval. I think most blogs have some sort of manual approval system anyway, to weed out the crappy comments that have no place on the site. As part of this process, surely a decision can be made whether to delete the comment, allow the comment with a nofollow link, or allow the comment with a proper link.

Wordpress to blame?

I wrote my own blog software, so I'm in charge of my own destiny. If something breaks, it's my fault. On the other hand, I get to program the functionality of my comment system to work however I want it to work. Or as well as I can be bothered programming it to work.

Most blogs run Wordpress, and I wonder if people are nofollowing comments because it's the default, or it's not easy to change. This isn't a pick at Wordpress, rather saying that most bloggers aren't programmers or techies, and changing the default behaviour is just too hard.

Soooo...

Because I'm such a nice guy, I have decided to implement the above in my commenting system. If you leave a comment, it will go live straight away with rel=nofollow. I'll get an email and I'll either delete your comment, leave it nofollowed, or if I think it's useful I'll remove the nofollow from the link and give it some juice.

Sound fair? Anyone got any comments on my comments about comments?
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7 Comments

Rob - Feb 15, 2007

We all know you are one hell of a "nice guy" so we don't need reminding - becomes a bit like those folks keep saying "to be honest with you" as if that is not naturally the way they are. Mr Nice (guy) smuggled dope in "big band" speakers for years and years - did 7 years for it (Made heaps though not a nice retirement). An alternative expression " my web etiquite inclines me to (this point of view)" - says you have a deep sense of consideration.

- Mar 16, 2007

Nice post, and website

- Mar 22, 2007

Yes. I do agree with it. Participating in forums not only brings us links, but also a great way to expand our knowledge and skills.

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Saving Simply - Apr 14, 2007

I'm new to blogging, and am at a point where i'm still learning about how the internet is 'connected'. It would seem to me that any comment deemed relevant by the site owner should not be made with a 'nofollow' attribute. Since anything a webmaster deems relevant will be visible, if search engines were to take this into account, it would provide a truer representation of the world wide web, since one of the biggest features is the interactions (comments) that occur between users.

Dan - May 2, 2007

That's a good approach - I enjoy it not only for the fairness, but because in checking your source code (or using the SEO for Firefox plugin) I can see your tacit approval or disapproval of each comment. : )

As a Wordpress user, I wish I could answer your question about nofollow links, but unfortunately I can't because I chose not to have comments at all and just removed the code that handled comments.

The reason? Well, in the beginning when I was a coding newbie, I didn't want to mess with either "real" spam or "human" spam. I figured that if someone cared enough to comment, they'd use my contact form.

Many times they do, so it seems to have worked out.

- Aug 26, 2007

The no follow tag made a lot of people upset, bloggers mainly because now google will not follow them that have links with this tag, and fair enough! I personally think the nofollow tag is not really necessary and indeed the name is a big no no. I have heard reports that it has not slowed down or stopped spam at all.

- Sep 22, 2009

There is a plugin for Wordpress that allows you to follow comment links. Or you can remove it completely - http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/follow-my-links/

Some blogs are very busy, and unless you want to risk bad rep from dodgy outbound links, nofollow is sometimes wise choice.


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